Démêler les pinceaux



Démêler les pinceaux is the podcast of the Musée des Arts Contemporains au Grand-Hornu.  

In this podcast, art historians and artists open the doors to the world of contemporary art for us. The series provides the keys to understand and consider major themes from the art world and attempts to delve deeper into the questions raised by the artists. The episodes invite us to look critically, to enable everyone to decipher the evolutions of the art world. Démêler les pinceaux can be found on all listening platforms and on Instagram


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Alexander Streitberger

Episode 8

This episode features a recording of the lecture given by Alexander Streitberger, Professor at the Université Catholique de Louvain and Director of the Lieven Gevaert Research Centre, on the occasion of the exhibition dedicated to the work of German photographer Jochen Lempert at the Musée des Arts Contemporains in Grand-Hornu.

Born in 1958 in Moers, Germany, Jochen Lempert first trained as a biologist. In 1979, he co-founded the Schmelzdahin group, which made experimental films exploring the processes of decomposition of celluloid film. From the late 1980s onwards, Jochen Lempert devoted himself to photography. Using very simple means, he pursued a meticulous and poetic practice in which he captured the slightest details of the nature around him in black and white.

In this talk, Alexander Streitberger explores the links between film, photography, biology, the natural sciences and aesthetics in Jochen Lempert's practice.

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MACS - Podcast - Alexander Streitberger

Lionel Estève

Episode 7

In this episode, we met Lionel Estève (1967, France). 
He guides us through his exhibition “Les Saisons” (The Seasons), in the rooms of the Musée des Arts Contemporains at Grand-Hornu. Upon contact with his works, he talks about his relationship with nature and game, and explains to us the importance of the third dimension in his work. Lionel Estève also shares with us his reflections on the notion of beauty and the role of colour in the history of sculpture.

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MACS - Podcast - Lionel Estève

Angel Vergara

Episode 6

An unclassifiable artist with a complex practice, Angel Vergara is back with us for this interview about what has always been present in his work: exchanges from daily life interpreted as poetic acts and the space of the painting which is being produced. He also discusses Straatman, or “street man” in English, an alter ego which he uses to set up his studio in the midst of everyday life. 

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MACS - Podcast - Angel Vergara

Georges Didi-Huberman

Episode 5

One year after the release of the first episode, the new season of Démêler les pinceaux is beginning with a special episode. This unpublished, exceptional conference by the philosopher and art historian Georges Didi-Huberman was recorded at the Museum of Contemporary Arts at Grand-Hornu, on the occasion of the museum’s 20th anniversary.

In this conference, he speaks to us about the concept of aura in Walter Benjamin’s philosophy and its possible survival. According to Georges Didi-Huberman, the aura is a crucial phenomenon for our gaze. He considers it here from the angle of its dreamlike, erotic and dialectic qualities.

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MACS - Podcast - Georges Didi-Huberman

Luc Tuymans

Episode 4

In this episode, we meet Luc Tuymans (1958, Belgium). 

For Démêler les pinceaux, Luc Tuymans revisits Saint-Georges, a painting completed in 2015 which is held by the Museum of Contemporary Arts at Grand-Hornu. Avoiding a literal interpretation of the myth of Saint George, Luc Tuymans provokes a mise en abîme and invites spectators to question their own role when confronted with the work. In this interview, the artist also discusses his relationship with the creation of images, and the place of painting in contemporary art. 

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MACS - Podcast - Luc Tuymans

Géraldine Tobé

Episode 3

In this episode, we met Géraldine Tobé (1992, RDC).

Géraldine Tobé is the first artist to have designed an exhibition for the Lever House in Brussels, a highly symbolic location in terms of Belgian colonisation of the Congo. In this encounter, she takes a look back at the outstanding moments of her career, her unique technique of smoke painting, and the importance of ancestral traditions in her work.

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MACS - Podcast - Géraldine Tobé

Laurent Busine

Episode 2

In this episode, we met up with Laurent Busine (1951, Belgium).

Laurent Busine is the founder and honorary director of the Museum of Contemporary Arts at Grand-Hornu. For the 20th anniversary of the museum, he has accepted to curate the anniversary exhibition, Les Fabriques du coeur et leur usage. Whilst explaining the origins of the exhibition and what he would like to convey to the visitors, he offers an insight into the role of curator and the reflections which the works inspire.

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MACS - Podcast - Laurent Busine

Aline Bouvy

Episode 1

In this episode, we meet Aline Bouvy (1974, Belgium).

The multidisciplinary artist originally from Luxembourg, Aline Bouvy developed a complex practice that is critical of the world around us. Shattering the norms and taboos of our society, the artist masters the art of subtle subversion and questions our most intimate representations. Her installations are like theatre sets that exhibit non-normative sexualities, the oppression of gender minorities and the limits of institutional conservatism.

Through her subject and her artistic practice, Aline Bouvy presents to us her objective: freedom.

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MACS - Podcast - Aline Bouvy